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Fellowship of the Ring at Black Gates

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But it is not this day! This day we fight!

I have the older version of the drawing right here allodoxa85.deviantart.com/art/…
Some of the fixes is I made a more sturdier Gimli, work a lot in the background and composition of the drawing. 

Should I add Faramir, Hobbits, Eomer and Gandalf to this picture in the future, or just make a new one?

Special thanks to :iconmagerblutooth: who gave suggestion after suggestion on how to fix this drawing. And I promise you wont see me updating this drawing anymore. I'm just tired of all the time spent on background but wow I'm really proud of this one!
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Heya Allodoxa, just wanted to pop in and leave a little note about the pic here. I noticed that it involves a lot of what we'd call "reused assets" compared to the last picture. Four of the five characters and the volcano appear to be copied and pasted from the last pic I analyzed, with Bean and Eowyn flipped across the vertical axis. As such, I can't offer much additional commentary in those departments aside from the composition, the manner in which you arranged the characters in the frame. Note how Eowyn no longer has the tangent line issue with her lower foot here, because her foot extends into the border instead of brushing up against it. Instead, her other foot now creates a tangent line by doing the same thing her other foot was doing in the other picture. There's also another tangent created with Bean's arm on the left side with the rock behind him. 

I noticed you added some drop shadows for this piece. It's a nice touch, attempting to add more weight to the characters, and it's another thing done in Paper Mario to create that sense of depth. Your drop shadows here seem a little confused, though, as they appear to be trying to flow with the shape of the character in a three-dimensional space. However, the way they flow along the ground suggests some unusual earthy contours in the ground they are standing on. For instance, Bean's shadow makes it look like his two feet are at two different elevations, and I could say the same about Aragorn's shadow. You'll want to make sure the pose, the ground, and the shadows all line up to create a believable standing position.

One trick I know is to try imagining these characters in motion immediately after this photo is taken. Imagine them each taking one step forward from their current position. Can you tell which foot they are currently leaning on? If you can, you know they'll be taking a step with the other foot. Can you follow the slope of the ground they are walking on? Would they be walking uphill, downhill, or straight forward? Once you get into mastery of this mindset, you can try rotating this scene in your mind. How would it look if you changed your perspective to view it from the right side? How about the left side? Do you see how Aragorn's right foot (our left) would be higher than his left (our right)? Try putting yourself in this 3D mindset when placing your characters in the world. It will help add believability and weight. For the moment, I'd suggest simple circular drop shadows like the ones used in Paper Mario. They'll help suggest a flat ground, as long as you make the feet line up. You can work on adding realism to your drop shadows once you begin taking light source into consideration.

Aragorn's pose and silhouette look to be one of your best so far. The sword propels outward from his body, giving it a thoroughly defined shape, and his cape flows in the opposite direction to do much the same. Though his cape masks his other arm, it doesn't disrupt the line of action and helps point the entire form to the right. I also think it employs some of the best color choice, perhaps even too good since the striking color palette makes the others look rather drab by comparison. I'd look into modifying some of the hues for the other characters to bring them up to standard. If you just work on the uneven stance set by Aragorn's feet, I think you'll have a real winner here.

I hope you continue to find areas to improve and find some of this advice useful. I see a strong base of developed skill for you to refine with some practical artistic theory. If you're looking for something immediate to improve, try some 30-second figure study practice. This website's great for drawing strong poses in a short time: 

line-of-action.com/practice-to…

Remember, if you find something difficult, it's a good sign. It means you've found a digging site to mine your talent further.